15 Minute Work Day

A frequent complaint one hears about D&D (and Pathfinder to a degree) is the 15 minute work day. The 15 minute work day is the potential for a party to want to rest after they use all of their big resources. This is often at the behest of the Wizard or Cleric of the party after they have used their more powerful spells.

This problem generally lines people up on two sides, both of which can be rather vocal about the issue. One side says this is a problem in nearly every D&D game they have played in and the other says they have never seen it in their games. These arguments usually fall between “it is a systemic problem it isn’t our fault” to “you are playing the game wrong, there is not a problem with the system”. This debate has been going on for a long time, occasionally resurfacing on various forums or twitter feeds.

Why bring it up today at The Iron Tavern? Conan. Conan and The People of the Black Circle actually.

Let me back up just a step though before I get into Conan and the 15 minute work day. I obviously have an opinion on the 15 minute work day, I think everyone does. I fall into the group of people that really has not seen the issue that often.

As a player our groups nearly always push onwards and our wizards tend to be conservative with their spells and manage their resources. That does not mean we adventure on until our resources are completely depleted, but we typically carry on for a good number of encounters before seeking out a place of rest. This has been the case for my local group, for the many organized play games I have participated in, a multitude of play-by-posts, and games I have played online in. Do the casters sometimes announce that they are running low on prepared spells? Yes. But the group as a whole typically pushed onwards.

From the GM perspective I have similar experiences. Players I GM for also tend to push onwards in adventures I run. Sometimes to the point where I actually think it might be best for them to rest up a bit before continuing. This experience is from many varied mediums as my play experience has been.

Given the number of different groups and situations I have a really hard time thinking this is a systemic problem as many like to state. To me a systemic problem would be widespread enough that I would have run into the problem in my playing of the game. I can see room for abuse by a 15 minute work day, but I don’t see it as being a systemic problem in the rules.

There has been one campaign where I found myself facing 15 minute work day scenarios. Kingmaker. The way the exploration portion of Kingmaker works the group will very often find themselves facing every fight at full resources. Now this is an example a systemic problem. As the Kingmaker Adventure Path is written, the PCs are only ever going to face one, two, maybe three encounters in a day during the exploration phases of the campaign.

Back to Conan. I recently started reading People of the Black Circle by Robert E. Howard. As I read that book a distinct thought tumbling around in the back of my mind was if GMs ran their games like that story, the 15 minute work day would never be an issue. The heroes (and even the enemy for that matter) have several moments during the story where they have no choice but to continue on regardless of the status of their resources or how depleted their forces were.

Conan and his companions cannot stop to wait or rest, even as they watch a good number of their forces perish. The girl must be rescued! To wait and recoup health, forces, or arrows is sure to meet with the untimely death or worse for the girl.

The defenders are heavy users of sorcery and at one point in the book are shown using various spells to defend themselves. As the battle unfolds Conan even remarks that they must have lost their capacity for magic as they further retreat. But those sorcerers cannot simply stop and rest! They have a fierce barbarian and his dwindling horde knocking at their doorstep!

Pacing as shown by example in People of the Black Circle is what GMs should strive to obtain. This puts the PCs in an exciting adventure with stakes that mean something to the characters. It paints that sense of urgency that will keep things moving forward and not a series of fight, sleep, fight, sleep and so on. The type of magic system simply will not matter, because it is irrelevant. The PCs must go on to be the heroes, to do otherwise simply ends in devastating failure.

DCC RPG Character Class Series Summary

Over the past several weeks The Iron Tavern has been taking a close look at each of the character classes in Dungeon Crawl Classics RPG. I primarily did the series with intent of highlighting some of the class features and some of my own thoughts for those on the fence about the game or just curious about the classes it offers. A secondary benefit was to give me a more structured way of taking a look at each character class to improve my judging in DCC RPG games. Overall I am pretty happy with how the series turned out.

Before we completely leave the topic I wanted to bring all the classes together in this one final character class post. This should provide an even easier entry point for those late to the series. I will provide links to the post and a very high-level one or two line summary of the class.

The Warrior

The first class I looked at to kick off the series. Mighty Deed of Arms. This is the mechanic that makes the Warrior a wonderfully fun class while not killing the player’s creativity with an overabundance of feats. Wizards of the Coast is trying to figure this out with combat superiority in 5e and overcomplicating it, but DCC RPG already has it figured it out.

The Thief

The DCC RPG thief is a throwback to an old school thief for the most part. The modified luck mechanic is what sets them apart from the others and having the ability to survive on luck and wits!

The Dwarf

With the return of race is class for demi-humans, the dwarf is quite warrior like. They have the ability to use Might Deed of Arms and they get to use a shield bash from level one! Between Mighty Deed of Arms and Shield bashing I can really emulate that rough and tumble dwarf that is ready to charge headstrong into harm’s way.

The Cleric

Alignment matters again. Don’t make your deity angry. The DCC RPG cleric has a “classic” feel to me with some interesting twists.

The Halfling

Referred to as “rolling balls of death” in one game I ran. Between an excellent modified luck mechanic what party wouldn’t want one in their party?! Throw in dual wielding and “rolling balls of death” don’t seem so far-fetched!

The Wizard

Magic is dangerous. Random tables dictate whether your spell is ultra-powerful or just so-so. This line from the rulebook best sums it up – “Use a torch, fool; it is much safer!”.

The Elf

The DCC RPG elf takes us back to the elves I remember from the Moldvay Basic set being able to both cast and engage in melee. But be careful of the iron!

And that officially concludes my weekly look at DCC RPG character classes. Overall I am quite satisfied with the character classes in Dungeon Crawl Classics RPG. Each has something fun to make it its own!

Iron Tavern Contest Winners

The One Year Anniversary Contest ended last night at 9pm Eastern. I want to thank all that entered, either by posting a comment here on the blog, mentioning The Iron Tavern on Twitter, adding us on Google+, or adding us to your blog roll. I spent this morning updating my list of entries with any of the last minute entrants.

With my final list of entries in hand, I randomized the entries in Excel and rolled twice at invisiblecastle.com. The first roll was for the first place prize, a $15 gift certificate to either RPG Now or Amazon.com and the second roll for the second place prize, a $10 gift certificate to either RPG Now or Amazon.com.

And our winners are…

First Place – $15 Gift Certificate to RPG Now or Amazon.com

  • Jconnell26 from his Twitter Entry

Second Place – $10 Gift Certificate to RPG Now or Amazon.com

  • Saroe from a blog comment

I will be contacting the winners via email shortly for them to choose their choice of prize.

Thanks again everyone for participating in the contest. I look forward to another year of blogging at The Iron Tavern!